T5 Recharge charging time

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Cold weather masssively reduces your range. The best thing I found with mine was to use the preheat function while it's still plugged in and get the car and the battery warmed up before you leave. it will improve it a bit. During the warmer months you will notice a vast improvement in range.
I've got a B4 mild hybrid now as mine T5 was due for change and there aren't any new ones any more but I do miss all the local runs being just on leccy :(
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JimElliott wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:54 am Looking for some guidance ,
nearly new 2023 T5 , I fully charged it last night on 3pin plug , took approx 4 hours , Full charge showed 24 mile range on electric gauge

drove this morning 5.4 miles at fairly low speed , and gauge is saying 11 mile left 59% charged !!

Volvo app says I consumed 3.2 KWH wh , so if I have 59% left , why is it not showing 16 miles and why did it reduce 24 mile range by 13 miles on a 5.5 mile trip

The car is superb , but above is a bit concerning to say the least , it says I would be lucky to get 10 miles when car fully charged

I was driving in Hybrid mode

very confused , Jim
Remembering that hybrids are all about reducing emissions and not about increasing MPG, try setting your satnav on every journey.

As the car then knows the journey ahead, it can work out the optimum times to be running on pure electricity and when to be running on petrol (e.g. on the motorway). Doing this, you could actually drive for 200 miles and still have some electric range left when you reach your destination.

I keep saying this but a PHEV is not supposed to be an electric car until the battery runs out and then a petrol car after that. The two are designed to work hand in hand to deliver cleaner motoring
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This was my dilemma when choosing what next after the B4. Didn't want full EV yet, but did want to move closer to EV than the token gesture of Mild-Hybrid's. M@rk, you are right about PHEV Hybrids in that are designed to work hand in hand, but they are not so cleaver in their ability to re-charge off grid, and so eventually the battery will become fully depleted leaving only the ICE for traction. This is the reason I felt full self-charging Hybrids were a better solution, you also drive continually hand in hand but without any other thought other than the need to fill the tank every 500-miles. Unfortunately Volvo did not do this technology and why I felt it wise therefore to choose the best brand that did.
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Thanks for reply Marks,
My concern was more if I only drove 5.5 miles in hybrid mode , why did that reduce electric gauge by 13 miles

secondly , so when electric gauge is showing empty/very low , the car obviously continues to drive in hybrid mode and moves between electric and petrol ,
will this do this continually even if you don't charge battery

sorry for all questions , just very interested to understand how it all works
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BuzBox wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:14 am This was my dilemma when choosing what next after the B4. Didn't want full EV yet, but did want to move closer to EV than the token gesture of Mild-Hybrid's. M@rk, you are right about PHEV Hybrids in that are designed to work hand in hand, but they are not so cleaver in their ability to re-charge off grid, and so eventually the battery will become fully depleted leaving only the ICE for traction.
That is incorrect

The battery will always have charge in to power the motors along side the petrol engine. As you drive along, the battery is being constantly recharged via regenerative braking and straight from the engine. You can see it doing this on the dashboard. The battery never gets fully flat

So you will ALWAYS have the petrol engine AND the electric motor available to you under normal driving in hybrid mode. If you think about it, if you mashed your foot to the floor for a maximum 0-60 time, the most power you would need in the battery is 8 seconds worth of power. Not much in the whole scheme of things and something easily recovered again.

This seems to be a common myth that once the battery is drained, its a dead weight. Simply untrue as it never fully drains so you always have the petrol engine and the electric motor and thus the cars maximum 265bhp at all times even if you never ever plugged it in.
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Understand, and wrong to say fully depleted when meant usable battery power for traction. When researching I was always reading the need to regularly plug them in to get the best out of them, and if you didn't, you would use the ICE for most of the time to keep the battery from full discharge rather than for traction.
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JimElliott wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:41 am Thanks for reply Marks,
My concern was more if I only drove 5.5 miles in hybrid mode , why did that reduce electric gauge by 13 miles

secondly , so when electric gauge is showing empty/very low , the car obviously continues to drive in hybrid mode and moves between electric and petrol ,
will this do this continually even if you don't charge battery

sorry for all questions , just very interested to understand how it all works
See my response to BuzBox
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BuzBox wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:42 pm Understand, and wrong to say fully depleted when meant usable battery power for traction. When researching I was always reading the need to regularly plug them in to get the best out of them, and if you didn't, you would use the ICE for most of the time to keep the battery from full discharge rather than for traction.
No. You still get all of the EV traction for all of the time with all of the power however what you loose is that short EV only range you get from plugging in
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Yep got it and well explained.
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Thanks guys , appreciate the feedback,

Is there anyway to protect the EV only battery range from draining ?

for instance if you were very low in petrol , you could have the back up of 28 miles in Pure EV mode
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